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Old 08-10-2014, 02:27 PM
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Starting to hear a lot about " black Widow" Frontosa. What's the deal?
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Old 08-10-2014, 02:58 PM
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A hybrid Frontosa. Black and white but in my eyes looks like a severely deformed koi. o
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Not hybrid, line bred, and they've been around for years. They've also been marketed as "panda frontosa". Typically marketed as a lot more special than they are. I've come across similar looking fish sold as standard Burundi frontosa by lfs at standard prices. They were nothing more than just badly bred fronts with poor quality and distorted bars, sold by a lfs that apparently wouldn't know one cyphotilapia from another and wouldn't know a proper looking cyphotilapia from a hole in the ground. So they're not as special as some have marketed-- or priced them-- to be.

Take some cosmetically poor Burundi, selectively breed them to the point of turning mooning and broken or partial bars into smudges and blotches and there you have it. In earlier examples the black blotches were still more bar like, more vertical, just interrupted with more white than your average broken bars. But as years have gone by you can see them with more horizontal looking markings, it's just the added years of line breeding taking them that much farther. Airfish, a normally well regarded importer in Germany, has marketed them before as a special mutation and taken some heavy criticism over them on forums, to the extent Airfish has posted on forums to defend them from those who say they're hybrids and even threatened legal action against those who post Airfish images of the fish in a negative context.

I'm sure there are guys out there who would love to come up with an 'OB frontosa' if they could ever manage it.
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Tks for the info.
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