getting them to hold?

[FAGO]

Okey, we can get lots of info on how to getting our fronts to spawn on this site and others. We follow and we succeed in getting them to spawn. Yippy our fronts has spawned. So excited to see the fry and how they grow. 2nd day nothing. What happened. No moma no holding. To the succesfull breeders espacialy zaires keepers. What do you do prior to the spawning. How much food do you feed? Do you think feeding little food wil help them holding better? Water quality? Do you do a wc after spawnings? And so forth. This also help with spawning. The question is how or what can do we do to let them hold? At least past the 3 day mark.

[neutrinoman]

As far as pre-spawn, if I sense a spawn is coming soon I'll do a water change with slightly cooler water. Otherwise, for me feeding is fairly routine. I've found Omega One shrimp pellets seem to be a good food for breeding fronts, just in general. I've also fed freeze dried mysis (good growth food ime) and I've found freeze dried blood worms works on a variety of fish (including my wild angels) to encourage them to spawn-- but that's me, since I prefer freeze dried over frozen. Really, I quit messing with frozen foods years ago.

I don't do anything special after a spawn. Some stop feeding for a few days. From what I've seen (my experience) it's possible that leaving lights off might help but there are so many variables I can't say this is a certainty. To me-- again, just my own experience-- you may have to be willing to lose a few of the early spawns to give them time to learn to hold. Lot of people would take this in stride with other species that grow to maturity much faster and produce fry more often, not so easy with fronts after you've spent big bucks on adults or waited a few years for juvies to grow up.

IMO it's hard to say there's a single formula for this, because cyphos can be different as individuals and what works for some won't work for everyone. I've found even the same female that has learned to hold fry is not always predictable on how long it will hold them.

[Ron R.]

Once one of my wc moba mommas is holding eggs I don't feed the tank for 5 days. Prior to spawning (when and if I do see a tube down) I try to feed a little more than I usually do........sinking pellets and frozen mysis. I keep everything the same........lighting and Tunze Stream schedules.

If a wc momma stops holding it's probably due to her just starting out, some type of male-to-male aggression or females fighting, an immature male........................

Just keep asking questions, try new stuff and have patience.

[FAGO]

Thank you for the onfo.

[wacky9739]

ron and neutro have answerd the best practices we all do

[FAGO]

Yip. i take alot from both of them and others on the site. Thank you gentleman. Well respected and respectable men on this site. And lady/ladies offcause. Thank you ladies. Your info makes me feel alot better.